Beyond Fentanyl: Nitazenes, Narcan & One Mother’s Fight to Prevent Overdose.

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Hello,

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and welcome back to Conversations with

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Karen and Kat,

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the podcast where we connect with powerful

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changemakers, visionaries,

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and everyday heroes who are shaping

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culture and community.

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I am Karen Scott Green.

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And I'm Kat Hardrick.

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And today we welcome Frederica Robinson.

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She is the founder and CEO of Marquavius

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Bernard Bronson Foundation Incorporated.

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on april first twenty twenty five uh

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frederica experienced something that all

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parents fear which was the devastating

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loss of her youngest child marquavius quay

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rotten to nidazine poisoning from that

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loss came a powerful mission turning pain

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into purpose and saving one life at a

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time

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Through her foundation,

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Frederica works to educate communities

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about overdose prevention, substance use,

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noxalene,

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and the growing dangers of fentanyl,

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nidazine, and other synthetic drugs.

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Today,

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we welcome Frederica to join us to share

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Quay's story,

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what families need to know about today's

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overdose crisis,

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and how each of us can help save

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a life.

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Thank you and welcome, Frederica.

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Thank you for having me.

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Yes, yes, absolutely.

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Before we get into starting of the

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foundation,

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can you tell us what was Quay like?

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Quay was a burst of energy.

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I mean,

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he never met a stranger and he loved

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to have fun.

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He loved family, faith, and football.

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If all those three years going on,

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he was good.

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He was always dancing, very energetic.

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He loved everybody, especially the kids.

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He was a favorite uncle out of everybody.

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And he just loved family.

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being around family and we do karaoke,

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we dance contests.

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That was us.

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He loves karaoke.

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Yes.

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No, none of us did, but we, we,

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we were singing go to song on karaoke.

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Um,

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what was it it was um it's one

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of them old school songs he don't hurt

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me singing i was born

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and another song that we sung together was

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we gonna stand up take my people with

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me together we are going that was it

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right there the whole family even the

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grandkids yeah that's beautiful can you

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take us back to April first twenty twenty

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five okay

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your life changed forever what happened

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and how did you get that news well

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i want to back up to the day

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before okay okay so quay had an addiction

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um he had played football and had an

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injury

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They were feeding him Percocets.

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When he couldn't get them from the doctor

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anymore, he went to the street.

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So he battled this addiction.

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And prior to three months,

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he had been clean.

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But he had cut his finger almost off

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on a blender,

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doing something Quay would do,

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stuck his finger in there,

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told him he wanted to see if the

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button worked.

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well it cut his finger and he had

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surgery on it but through that he would

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say that um mama i don't want no

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pain medicines he went through everything

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the surgery everything with no pain

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medicine the day before he passed away we

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went into the plastic surgeon office and

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he had a pen sticking out of his

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finger to hold that bone in place after

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the surgery and i remember walking out

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that door and i remember quay telling me

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mama

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I got a craving and I've called eighteen

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places and they tell us our insurance is

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out of network.

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I need ten thousand dollars.

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And I said, keep calling, keep calling.

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Somebody going to say yes.

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About four o'clock,

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he found this place in Ackworth and they

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told him, well,

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if you can get here by five o'clock,

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then we can do your detox.

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And he was like, I don't need detox.

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I just got a craving.

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I have no drugs in my system.

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They say, well,

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we'll schedule an appointment April first

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at ten a.m.

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And so throughout the night,

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he had satisfied that craving where two

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young ladies he knew sent him a pill

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via Uber courier.

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So it was delivered to my house in

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a book bag.

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And not one delivery, but two deliveries,

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one at eleven o'clock and one at two,

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some in the morning.

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And I have a Yorkie and very demanding

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at seven twenty.

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He yapping talking about I got to go

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to the bathroom.

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So I went to take him out to

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the bathroom.

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And when we came back in, I said,

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let me check Quay room.

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Some told me to check Quay's room.

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And when I went in there,

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he was laying back on his bed.

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but something didn't look right.

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Something didn't look right.

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And I was like, Quay,

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Quay called his name a couple of times

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and I jumped on him.

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I was like, Quay.

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And I felt for a pulse.

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He had a pulse.

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And I said, Lord, no, no.

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I called nine one one.

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And after I called nine one one,

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I administered a Narcan.

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And at that moment, he,

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I started doing CPR and I was able

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to sweep his mouth and he had some

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grapes.

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And so those grapes came out.

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And so I,

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I got two grapes out and I'm still

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going.

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He's gasping for air.

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I hit him with another Narcan.

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He's gasping for air.

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And then Quay looked at me.

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He turned his head,

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laid it in my hand.

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A tear came out and he took his

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last breath.

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I'm so sorry.

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Yeah.

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So at seven fifty seven, he was gone.

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He was gone.

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Yeah.

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So the drug that

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he had taken.

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I had never heard of... Nitazine.

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I had never heard of nitazine.

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When I looked it up for our conversation,

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I learned that it's more power than

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fentanyl.

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Tell us about nitazine and what we need

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to make people aware of how

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available that that even that class of

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synthetic opioids is.

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So nitazines was introduced in the

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nineteen fifties and sixties to the FDA.

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And at that time,

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when they were doing the studies,

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they were inject the mice and the mice

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were dying.

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So the FDA shot it down because it

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was too strong and powerful for pain

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medicine or for anybody.

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So it wasn't for human consumption.

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And so

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It's still utilized over in the UK and

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China.

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So some kind of way it's done found

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its way to the United States.

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If there's any drug in the world,

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it's going to find its way.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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And so back in twenty nineteen is when

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they first started appearing.

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And I think it was more in the

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Philly area.

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And then fentanyl numbers just went to the

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roof.

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Well,

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When Dr. Terry called me, she stated,

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she was like,

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I think this is a fentanyl overdose,

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but do you mind if I send his

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bodily fluids over to the UBI?

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Just to interrupt you,

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for those who are not aware, Dr.

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Terry is the medical examiner in Gwinnett

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County.

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And so because your son did not die

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of like an illness or something,

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an autopsy would have been performed,

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which is why his body would have gone

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to her office.

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Yes.

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And so she sent it off to the

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GBI, who then sent it off,

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outsourced it out of state.

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It wasn't until four months later when I'm

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in the courtroom with the two young ladies

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that they arrested for this drug,

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for sending the drug,

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that I found out it was nitazine.

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And the thing about nitazines,

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they have a law for fentanyl.

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If you give somebody fentanyl,

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they have Austin's law,

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minimum of twenty five years.

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Well,

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they couldn't charge these young ladies

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with that, Austin's law,

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because it's specific.

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It says fentanyl, and that's it.

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And so Madam DA's office then took it

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to the grand jury for a felony murder

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charge.

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Okay.

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But that was how I came to find

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out about this drug.

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And it's amazing because Tom Branch from

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GNR Health had kind of took me under

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his wings and was giving me the reports

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of everything, the overdoses,

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the ones that's been saved with Narcan.

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And I remember two weeks prior to this,

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Tom Branch saying, well,

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we just had our first

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fatal death of nidazine so i started doing

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research about nidazine putting it out on

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my social media page and to find out

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that first death was my son wow so

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he hadn't even made that connection when

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he was telling you about it nope

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Not at all.

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So,

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it's twenty-one different types of

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nitazines out there.

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Okay.

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And they range from ten to a hundred

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times stronger than more, I mean,

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than fentanyl.

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Oh, my God.

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And fentanyl was what we thought was the

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most powerful opioid around.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Can you say the doses?

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I know when we had a previous guest

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and we were talking about the fentanyl

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crisis and they showed

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Somewhere like smaller than a dime size.

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Actually, it's this pencil tip.

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Oh, wow.

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It's pretty potent.

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A small bit can kill you.

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Four grains of salt can kill you.

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There was an officer in Gwinnett County a

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few years ago that handled the fentanyl.

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And he handled it.

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I don't remember if he had on,

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but when he handled it,

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he wasn't aware that whatever the thing

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was that he picked up.

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had had fentanyl on it and he ended

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up getting sick and they had to give

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him Narcan.

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They ended up charging the person who the

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police went there to say because the

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officer ended up becoming ill because of

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just his contact with fentanyl.

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And this is anywhere from ten to a

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hundred times more potent than

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than more than fentanyl and quade died of

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isonitazine which is forty times stronger

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than fentanyl eight hundred times stronger

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than morphine now give me that name again

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isonitazine isonitazine i've never heard

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of any of these no and

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The thing about it,

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the DA is starting to do a little

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bit more research.

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They're actually compensating a little bit

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more now that they know about it.

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But the problem is nobody can test for

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it here in Georgia.

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That's a problem.

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Because how many more fentanyl cases

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that they're just labeled as fentanyl and

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it's actually the nitrogen.

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So the numbers ain't right.

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And can't nobody convince me that the

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numbers are right.

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Thank God for Dr. Terry.

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But when the fentanyl first hit the scene,

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Dr.

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Terry was the one under ones who broke

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that as well.

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And so you took this incredible loss.

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Like, I don't even know.

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I don't even know how you were able

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to,

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but you took this loss and you created

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this organization.

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So tell us about this organization that

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you've named after your child.

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Well, you know,

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it's amazing because I remember speaking

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at Quay's funeral on April the eleventh

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and I got up and I spoke to

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everyone and I said,

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we're going to cry today,

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but we're going to put boots on the

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ground because we I do not want to

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see another mother feel the pain that I

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have felt.

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God gave me comfort in this because when

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they roll Quay out of my house,

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a sparrow start hitting my window.

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that sparrow hit my window for thirty

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eight days straight at seven fifty seven

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a.m.

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And I would record it every day on

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Facebook.

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And I knew then this is it.

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And

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You know, you don't understand.

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God has been already giving you the work

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and not even knowing it.

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I was in school for a bachelor's in

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science and equine studies.

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And that December prior,

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my project was to form a five oh

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one C three.

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And it was called finding strength through

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the storms.

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And so speaking over quite a day,

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God gave me that vision.

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The vision is the Marquavius Bernard

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Broughton Foundation.

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You take that name off.

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And I took that and submitted the same

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paperwork that I turned in as a paper

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and got a ninety eight on.

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Yeah.

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And here we are,

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the Marquavius Bernard Broughton

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Foundation.

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And we submitted it on September the

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thirtieth.

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On October the first,

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we had a government shutdown.

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That department was shut down.

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But on October the fourteenth,

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I received my five oh one C three.

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listen when I say it's boots on the

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ground I'm in every room I'm setting up

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tables everywhere I'm educating people on

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Narcan on the new drugs that are out

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there because it's not just nitazine you

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got the metatopidine you got the xylosine

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so as quick as we are learning about

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things it's new it's emerging that's

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what's scary yes you have a powerful you

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have a powerful quote

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on your website,

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turning pain into purpose by educating

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others about the devastating effects of

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substance abuse.

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And empowering communities to take action.

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That's it.

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That's very powerful.

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It's all about the action.

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We can talk about it all day,

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but action moves may bring a movement.

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And that's what I tend to do here

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in Georgia, New York, Washington, D.C.,

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Florida.

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Those are all the states where I have

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taken this to.

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I go next week to Tennessee and speak

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in Knoxville, Tennessee.

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This is something,

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this foundation is now how I hear Quay's

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heartbeat.

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And it's going to be loud.

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So the purpose of the foundation is

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education and awareness.

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Education, awareness, advocating,

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and sitting with grieving families.

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My God.

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Can you talk about a couple of the

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programs that you offer?

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I see you have a Quay project.

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Am I saying that right?

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And a Mark program.

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So the Quay project is in action.

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That's me going out,

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educating the community.

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doing the vendor tables we do a

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partnership for purpose we did a five k

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this year which was our first annual where

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um commissioner jasper did a proclamation

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where made that day partnership for

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purpose day and that was april the

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eleventh all that falls under the quays

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project and so it's um storytelling um

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is part of the praise project we are

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working on so that mark project he spoke

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about that's my long-term goal and my

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long-term goal god gave me a vision of

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forty four acres five years ago when i

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had bone cancer i beat that bone cancer

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i didn't understand what forty four acres

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was

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That's why I was back in school for

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a bachelor's in science and equine

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studies.

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Cause I thought I was supposed to have

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a equine assisted therapy for trauma

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veterans and mental health.

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Well, when I graduated, um,

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I learned so much more,

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but it's a mental health component to all

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of this.

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And so Quay was not able to get

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in a place.

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It was about money.

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So this forty four acres,

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I want to build a section of it

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to have an equine assistant therapy for

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mental health, trauma and veterans.

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And then I want a detox center.

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I want a recovery treatment home on that

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property where they can get the one year

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long term goal.

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But I also would like to place twenty

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one tiny homes on that property.

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because we don't want to send them back

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to the streets.

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We want to send them back to their

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own place and teach them how to live

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in society by educating,

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showing them how to write checks.

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A lot of them don't even know how

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to manage money,

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make sure all these programs is there.

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And so the mark project is Quay leaving

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his mark on the world.

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And I love how you're going to,

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you're thinking ahead because when people

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have to, when they,

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when they are working to get off drugs,

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then you go back into society and you're

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not strong enough or may not be strong

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enough because all of the mess is still

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there.

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And most people have to literally pick up

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and relocate because when you go to a

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brand new spot,

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you don't know where all the stuff is.

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You got to seek it out.

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That's right.

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So it's good that you're thinking about

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that.

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Um,

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Yes.

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The twenty one tiny home.

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So my consultant that has helped me with

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the foundation and all the back end

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paperwork and everything.

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She actually knows the maker,

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the inventor of the tiny home.

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Don't.

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He's willing to donate twenty one tiny

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homes to that land.

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So when the land comes in,

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I really wanted in Gwinnett County because

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Gwinnett County don't have any places.

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When we made those phone calls,

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they were all outside of Gwinnett County.

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And that's a problem.

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It's a problem because it's heavily in

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Gwinnett County.

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So how can our listeners support your

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vision?

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So if on the website, mbbfoundation.org,

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it's a place where to donate.

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And when you hit that donate tab,

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it takes you to Givelify,

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which is different projects.

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All the projects is on there.

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We got one up and coming.

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It's the Koi way.

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One...

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One conversation at a time,

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one mile at a time.

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We had a billboard for the whole month

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of August up on Lawrenceville Highway to

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promote the Quayway.

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But we're going to start doing car shows

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because that'll bring out people.

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You know,

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the cars will bring the people out where

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we can educate them.

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And so we're starting on the Quayway

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campaign.

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And that's going to be like one of

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our signatures because it'll be the...

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what do you call it, the car shows,

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but also we'll have where we'll go in

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and speak in schools, the Quayway,

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educating them.

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And then also I'm looking,

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I'm going to talk to Ry Gwinnett and

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see can I get the Quayway campaign in

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on the bus system so it can show

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advertising and educational things about

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the different drugs that is coming on.

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And I also would like to wrap a

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bus with a...

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message a message a message with some

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education behind it and quay's face so you

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can see this is a real person so

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i i just proposed to the nfl the

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koiway campaign so fingers crossed listen

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i i was just in new york last

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week um for facing fentanyl and i stood

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in times square and spoke to parents you

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know

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in reference to fentanyl and nitazines,

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but I also stood with over two thousand

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families who's lost somebody and Quaid was

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on the billboard in Times Square.

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I talk.

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Wanda Wiggins takes me everywhere with

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her.

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I speak everywhere she goes.

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She's like, come on, I'm coming.

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One thing about it,

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this has become my passion,

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but it's also my purpose.

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You know,

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you think you've been found your purpose

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in life.

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This is it.

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And today is a prime example.

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Just this morning.

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On my way to work,

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I'm a practice manager of a dermatology

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office.

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And I get a phone call from my

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office stating one of my employees

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overdosed.

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Oh, my gosh.

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She hit the floor.

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I have equipped my office and trained my

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office.

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They hit her with two Narcans.

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And then they hit her with the IM

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and brought her back.

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So Quay is still saving lives,

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one life at a time.

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And that was a reality check that you're

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doing exactly what you were supposed to

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do.

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And God has equipped you for this.

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So don't worry about the finances because

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they coming.

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Keep telling your story.

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If it's God's will,

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God will take care of the bill.

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That's it.

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To quote another guest.

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So, Frederica,

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what takeaway should parents and loved

00:22:37.489 --> 00:22:41.373
ones take away from this show,

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this episode today?

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Pay attention to your kids.

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Listen to your kids.

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Because if you listen, they'll talk.

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But educate them.

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There are things that's out there that one

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pill can kill.

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All it takes is one time.

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And pay attention.

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Don't take no candy from nobody.

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Don't take these vapes from nobody.

00:23:07.361 --> 00:23:09.001
Don't take no pills from nobody.

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Right now,

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it's sidewalk chalk out there that they're

00:23:12.063 --> 00:23:13.864
putting in the playgrounds.

00:23:14.998 --> 00:23:17.259
The children touch it, they pass out,

00:23:17.298 --> 00:23:18.419
they're swiping the kids.

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It goes along with sex trafficking.

00:23:20.679 --> 00:23:21.659
So pay attention.

00:23:21.919 --> 00:23:24.000
Pay attention to signs and things that

00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:27.121
they normally do that they start to

00:23:27.161 --> 00:23:28.201
disconnect from.

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And I just say be involved in your

00:23:30.421 --> 00:23:31.981
child, your loved ones.

00:23:32.541 --> 00:23:34.942
But if they aren't at it, listen.

00:23:35.741 --> 00:23:37.442
Because Quay taught me a lot.

00:23:37.903 --> 00:23:39.823
Because I walked with him these three

00:23:39.863 --> 00:23:40.982
years with that journey.

00:23:41.022 --> 00:23:43.304
So listening is very key.

00:23:44.517 --> 00:23:46.460
And people also need to realize,

00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:47.741
particularly young people,

00:23:48.403 --> 00:23:49.183
is that

00:23:51.971 --> 00:23:53.574
What you may be taking,

00:23:53.614 --> 00:23:56.036
you may not even realize that it's laced

00:23:56.175 --> 00:23:56.836
with something.

00:23:57.596 --> 00:23:58.939
So you might be thinking that you're

00:23:58.959 --> 00:23:59.659
getting weed.

00:23:59.679 --> 00:24:00.920
You might be thinking you're getting

00:24:00.980 --> 00:24:03.643
something in your vape that's like THC or

00:24:03.682 --> 00:24:04.143
whatever.

00:24:04.903 --> 00:24:08.307
Or a gummy that's just like a THC.

00:24:08.666 --> 00:24:11.109
And it can be laced with one of

00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:13.132
these synthetic opioids.

00:24:13.192 --> 00:24:15.574
And so that's why it's so important.

00:24:17.134 --> 00:24:20.317
and it's so important to know number one

00:24:20.336 --> 00:24:24.480
what you're ingesting and even if you've

00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.082
gotten something from someone before and

00:24:27.122 --> 00:24:29.443
it was safe doesn't mean that the next

00:24:29.483 --> 00:24:34.487
time it will be one last thing I

00:24:34.507 --> 00:24:37.229
would like to say everybody needs to carry

00:24:37.409 --> 00:24:42.472
Narcan everybody I don't care if you think

00:24:42.593 --> 00:24:44.213
it'll never happen to you

00:24:45.029 --> 00:24:47.550
I work for a dermatology office.

00:24:48.151 --> 00:24:50.031
You don't expect dermatology.

00:24:50.071 --> 00:24:51.192
But in the last month,

00:24:51.532 --> 00:24:53.133
we have had two overdose,

00:24:53.333 --> 00:24:55.233
one a patient's mother,

00:24:55.253 --> 00:24:56.713
I mean a patient's father,

00:24:57.154 --> 00:24:58.275
and one of my employees.

00:24:59.576 --> 00:25:01.435
Everywhere you go, this can happen.

00:25:02.317 --> 00:25:03.336
Just be equipped.

00:25:04.017 --> 00:25:08.618
How can a household get access to Narcan?

00:25:09.201 --> 00:25:10.442
Okay, so our foundation,

00:25:10.481 --> 00:25:11.922
if you reach out to our foundation,

00:25:11.961 --> 00:25:13.002
we can get it to you,

00:25:13.042 --> 00:25:16.305
but you also can go to Georgia Overdose

00:25:16.384 --> 00:25:19.205
Prevention and you can order it.

00:25:20.066 --> 00:25:21.866
You tell them how many in your household,

00:25:21.886 --> 00:25:25.148
they'll send them out for free.

00:25:25.288 --> 00:25:26.109
Okay, and so if you wanted to,

00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:27.069
go ahead.

00:25:27.857 --> 00:25:29.238
Go ahead.

00:25:29.278 --> 00:25:29.557
Say that.

00:25:29.577 --> 00:25:29.739
Go ahead.

00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.278
If you wanted to get in contact with

00:25:31.318 --> 00:25:32.159
the foundation,

00:25:32.499 --> 00:25:36.440
the email address is info at M B

00:25:36.619 --> 00:25:38.961
B foundation.org.

00:25:39.040 --> 00:25:41.221
And the B as is B as in

00:25:41.281 --> 00:25:41.761
boy.

00:25:42.382 --> 00:25:42.582
Uh,

00:25:42.882 --> 00:25:46.883
and the E the website is M B

00:25:47.083 --> 00:25:49.124
B foundation.org.

00:25:49.163 --> 00:25:50.263
So, um,

00:25:50.855 --> 00:25:53.277
again if you're if you want to get

00:25:53.376 --> 00:25:56.537
your can of narcan you can also contact

00:25:56.557 --> 00:25:58.557
the foundation in order to be able to

00:25:58.597 --> 00:26:01.557
get um to get narcan and to have

00:26:01.617 --> 00:26:04.659
it in your home in your car at

00:26:04.679 --> 00:26:09.920
your at your work yes one thing about

00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.019
the narcan as well and i like to

00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.580
tell people this before um

00:26:15.939 --> 00:26:17.001
If it's expired,

00:26:17.584 --> 00:26:20.230
it is still good up to twenty five

00:26:20.451 --> 00:26:20.913
years.

00:26:22.137 --> 00:26:23.239
don't throw it away.

00:26:23.459 --> 00:26:24.680
It is still good.

00:26:25.320 --> 00:26:27.321
So is it easy to administer?

00:26:27.402 --> 00:26:29.063
How do you administer the Narcan?

00:26:29.384 --> 00:26:32.165
So Narcan, it is a nasal spray.

00:26:32.865 --> 00:26:35.087
And just like your Flonase,

00:26:35.147 --> 00:26:38.670
just like nasal cord, you inject,

00:26:38.750 --> 00:26:41.231
you push it in the nostril and push

00:26:41.271 --> 00:26:41.771
the button.

00:26:42.053 --> 00:26:42.532
Push it up.

00:26:42.653 --> 00:26:42.893
Okay.

00:26:42.913 --> 00:26:43.373
That's it.

00:26:43.394 --> 00:26:44.934
But you want to make sure you hit

00:26:44.974 --> 00:26:46.976
that membrane because that's,

00:26:47.556 --> 00:26:48.497
it's a mucosis.

00:26:48.517 --> 00:26:49.397
So it,

00:26:49.917 --> 00:26:51.679
gets to the bloodstream quicker when it

00:26:51.739 --> 00:26:53.539
hits a membrane.

00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.040
So pushing it in,

00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:56.981
it's no wrong way to do it.

00:26:57.902 --> 00:26:59.603
You just want it in that nostril.

00:26:59.782 --> 00:27:00.884
Get it in that nostril so that it

00:27:00.903 --> 00:27:02.605
gets into the bloodstream.

00:27:02.865 --> 00:27:04.385
Do you talk about the Narcan,

00:27:04.405 --> 00:27:05.906
how to administer it when you give your

00:27:06.487 --> 00:27:07.307
presentations?

00:27:07.728 --> 00:27:08.107
I do.

00:27:08.508 --> 00:27:08.907
I do.

00:27:09.167 --> 00:27:13.171
I actually do a whole demonstration of the

00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:15.132
signs and symptoms to look for,

00:27:16.031 --> 00:27:17.432
which is the

00:27:19.295 --> 00:27:21.856
Dilated pupils, slurring of the words,

00:27:22.278 --> 00:27:23.338
the gurgling,

00:27:23.719 --> 00:27:26.221
those are things that you know that it

00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.724
can be a suspected overdose or just

00:27:30.845 --> 00:27:31.645
unresponsive.

00:27:32.125 --> 00:27:34.268
And even if the person, say for instance,

00:27:34.288 --> 00:27:36.589
you administer it and it wasn't an

00:27:36.690 --> 00:27:38.251
overdose, it will not hurt them.

00:27:38.912 --> 00:27:40.192
Narcan will not hurt them.

00:27:40.513 --> 00:27:41.555
You said gurgling.

00:27:41.615 --> 00:27:43.395
Is the gurgling kind of like the death

00:27:43.455 --> 00:27:44.297
rattle gurgling?

00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:46.942
It's similar to the death rattle gurgling,

00:27:47.002 --> 00:27:49.665
and it's because what the drug has done

00:27:49.726 --> 00:27:51.507
is told the brain not to breathe.

00:27:52.167 --> 00:27:53.489
Oh, my.

00:27:53.608 --> 00:27:55.611
And so the body is going back and

00:27:55.651 --> 00:27:58.433
forth saying, do I breathe, do I don't?

00:27:58.473 --> 00:28:01.636
So that gurgling is the death gurgle.

00:28:01.757 --> 00:28:05.760
What's known, you know, people who...

00:28:06.271 --> 00:28:09.294
dealt with death they call it yes yes

00:28:10.615 --> 00:28:14.077
which is almost it's indescribable it is

00:28:14.137 --> 00:28:17.299
indescribable once you've heard it you

00:28:17.339 --> 00:28:21.282
will never forget it absolutely never

00:28:21.303 --> 00:28:25.286
forget it yes and that would be absolutely

00:28:25.486 --> 00:28:29.888
horrifying to hear that I did not know

00:28:30.048 --> 00:28:32.211
that that is one of

00:28:34.073 --> 00:28:35.534
the symptoms to look out for one of

00:28:35.574 --> 00:28:37.914
the signs to look out for it is

00:28:37.994 --> 00:28:39.976
but that's not just because you heard it

00:28:40.196 --> 00:28:43.979
don't mean you can't bring them back so

00:28:44.239 --> 00:28:46.560
don't let that be a fear that you've

00:28:46.661 --> 00:28:49.863
lost or you didn't succeed continue doing

00:28:49.903 --> 00:28:52.744
the same thing you were doing and after

00:28:52.785 --> 00:28:54.726
you've administered one you wait ninety

00:28:54.826 --> 00:28:56.807
seconds to a hundred and twenty seconds

00:28:56.846 --> 00:28:59.729
and then you can administer another one so

00:29:00.128 --> 00:29:01.790
a lot of times it takes more than

00:29:01.911 --> 00:29:02.451
one dose

00:29:03.257 --> 00:29:04.377
That's what I was going to ask, too.

00:29:04.438 --> 00:29:05.178
What's that level?

00:29:05.238 --> 00:29:07.419
But one thing I do want to say

00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.319
is to our young people,

00:29:09.780 --> 00:29:11.942
sometimes you think you're just having fun

00:29:12.402 --> 00:29:14.963
and you're trying something new and it

00:29:15.023 --> 00:29:16.423
looks cool.

00:29:18.244 --> 00:29:20.006
Really think about what you're doing,

00:29:20.046 --> 00:29:22.327
because when you exchange these items that

00:29:22.367 --> 00:29:24.028
you don't even know what you have in

00:29:24.048 --> 00:29:25.249
your own possession,

00:29:25.690 --> 00:29:27.530
you can share something that may take

00:29:27.570 --> 00:29:28.471
someone's life.

00:29:29.132 --> 00:29:31.393
And now two families.

00:29:33.145 --> 00:29:35.507
have been impacted by that.

00:29:35.946 --> 00:29:36.807
Because like you said,

00:29:36.827 --> 00:29:40.028
it was two people who were convicted or

00:29:40.048 --> 00:29:41.430
charged during the process.

00:29:43.111 --> 00:29:45.751
And these are young people.

00:29:45.852 --> 00:29:48.893
And maybe some people may not know.

00:29:48.932 --> 00:29:49.492
They're like, hey,

00:29:49.512 --> 00:29:50.953
let's just go have a good time.

00:29:51.394 --> 00:29:54.395
And then now the unthinkable happens.

00:29:54.536 --> 00:29:56.215
So young people, please, please,

00:29:56.256 --> 00:29:59.458
please don't do it.

00:29:59.877 --> 00:30:00.597
Don't do it.

00:30:00.718 --> 00:30:01.898
Talk to your parents.

00:30:02.491 --> 00:30:03.813
Talk to your educators.

00:30:04.272 --> 00:30:06.375
Get involved with MBB Foundation.

00:30:06.434 --> 00:30:11.617
Just find someone to talk to because it

00:30:11.637 --> 00:30:12.398
could be you.

00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:14.641
It could be you.

00:30:15.320 --> 00:30:17.542
And when you just said the whole chalk

00:30:17.603 --> 00:30:19.084
thing and people doing this stuff,

00:30:19.104 --> 00:30:21.625
like we really have to protect our babies.

00:30:22.086 --> 00:30:23.487
We have to protect our babies.

00:30:24.166 --> 00:30:25.887
And the first way is through a

00:30:25.948 --> 00:30:27.068
conversation like this.

00:30:27.088 --> 00:30:28.630
So thank you for being vulnerable.

00:30:28.690 --> 00:30:31.011
Thank you for sharing your testimonies.

00:30:31.339 --> 00:30:32.800
Thank you for telling us about your

00:30:32.820 --> 00:30:36.123
precious baby and turning your pain into

00:30:36.163 --> 00:30:38.384
purpose so you can save other lives.

00:30:39.164 --> 00:30:42.067
And with everything that you're doing,

00:30:42.166 --> 00:30:44.008
how do you protect your mental wellness?

00:30:45.088 --> 00:30:46.549
I got a family counselor.

00:30:46.930 --> 00:30:49.051
I got an individual counselor.

00:30:49.912 --> 00:30:52.473
And I practice self-care more now.

00:30:52.894 --> 00:30:55.435
But I can say, since Quay has passed,

00:30:55.655 --> 00:30:57.217
it has given me a peace

00:30:58.083 --> 00:30:59.564
because I'm not worrying anymore.

00:30:59.884 --> 00:31:00.944
I used to watch the news,

00:31:01.125 --> 00:31:04.407
it's the peace that surpasses all

00:31:04.448 --> 00:31:04.988
understanding.

00:31:05.028 --> 00:31:06.769
So now I'm able to take care of

00:31:06.788 --> 00:31:06.949
me.

00:31:07.829 --> 00:31:09.290
And he was the baby, like I said,

00:31:09.330 --> 00:31:10.432
so I'm empty nested.

00:31:11.492 --> 00:31:14.034
I'm outside, I'm enjoying life.

00:31:14.734 --> 00:31:15.935
I get on a flight just to go

00:31:15.976 --> 00:31:16.756
somewhere to eat.

00:31:18.436 --> 00:31:19.718
And I love water.

00:31:20.219 --> 00:31:23.101
And when I start to feel,

00:31:23.721 --> 00:31:25.623
that's where my safe place is to the

00:31:25.663 --> 00:31:25.923
water.

00:31:27.375 --> 00:31:29.117
And it don't matter if it's the beach

00:31:29.417 --> 00:31:30.599
or a waterfall.

00:31:30.740 --> 00:31:31.901
I just need to hear the water.

00:31:32.362 --> 00:31:38.109
There's something cathartic about water.

00:31:38.289 --> 00:31:38.911
Mm-hmm.

00:31:39.934 --> 00:31:44.420
There's something healing about water.

00:31:44.460 --> 00:31:45.561
Take me to the water.

00:31:45.622 --> 00:31:46.863
Take me to the river.

00:31:47.084 --> 00:31:49.026
It's all about the water.

00:31:49.046 --> 00:31:51.650
It's all about the water.

00:31:52.109 --> 00:31:54.794
I remember being younger.

00:31:54.874 --> 00:31:55.734
You have cramps.

00:31:56.194 --> 00:31:56.556
I'd go...

00:31:57.817 --> 00:31:58.896
Lay in the tub.

00:31:59.836 --> 00:32:00.498
In the tub.

00:32:00.817 --> 00:32:01.778
Hot water.

00:32:04.498 --> 00:32:07.719
But that water just made you feel better.

00:32:07.798 --> 00:32:08.798
Being in the water.

00:32:08.818 --> 00:32:13.861
There's something very calming and

00:32:13.941 --> 00:32:15.921
relaxing about being in the water.

00:32:15.980 --> 00:32:18.541
One of the things I was thinking about

00:32:18.862 --> 00:32:23.782
is for the parents and the loved ones

00:32:23.843 --> 00:32:25.262
who dealt with

00:32:26.884 --> 00:32:29.326
loved ones that were struggling with

00:32:29.425 --> 00:32:33.969
addiction the worry the anxiety the

00:32:34.249 --> 00:32:38.412
sleepless nights worry and especially if

00:32:39.071 --> 00:32:40.732
you've put a boundary and you said you

00:32:40.772 --> 00:32:42.814
cannot do this in my home and you

00:32:42.854 --> 00:32:46.676
cannot be here when you're doing this and

00:32:46.717 --> 00:32:48.778
they're out there in the world and not

00:32:48.877 --> 00:32:52.881
knowing what's going on with them

00:32:54.107 --> 00:32:56.911
And because the call that if you've,

00:32:57.672 --> 00:33:00.054
for anyone who's listening or watching

00:33:00.074 --> 00:33:00.275
this,

00:33:00.615 --> 00:33:02.876
if you've ever had a loved one that's

00:33:02.936 --> 00:33:05.079
dealt with addiction,

00:33:05.099 --> 00:33:07.923
the greatest fear is getting that call

00:33:07.962 --> 00:33:10.684
that they're no longer with us.

00:33:11.006 --> 00:33:12.727
Yes.

00:33:12.748 --> 00:33:13.808
But also...

00:33:15.220 --> 00:33:17.842
learning that they're no longer in pain

00:33:17.862 --> 00:33:20.463
because addiction is a pain anyone who's

00:33:20.523 --> 00:33:22.025
dealt with the loved one that's dealt with

00:33:22.065 --> 00:33:23.826
addiction know that it's pain because

00:33:24.146 --> 00:33:25.887
people that are dealing with addiction

00:33:25.928 --> 00:33:27.528
living with addiction even if they're

00:33:27.568 --> 00:33:29.931
getting over it you know coping with you

00:33:29.951 --> 00:33:32.512
know being substance free for however long

00:33:33.232 --> 00:33:37.096
they still struggle on it's a day-to-day

00:33:37.135 --> 00:33:39.657
struggle for the rest of your life for

00:33:39.678 --> 00:33:41.859
the rest of your life and every second

00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:42.440
counts

00:33:43.479 --> 00:33:45.920
And like I said,

00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.701
Quay was three months clean.

00:33:48.721 --> 00:33:51.923
But all it took is that one release.

00:33:52.003 --> 00:33:54.845
And that next time that you hit something

00:33:55.226 --> 00:33:57.906
could be the last time because your body

00:33:57.987 --> 00:33:59.647
isn't immune to it anymore.

00:34:00.067 --> 00:34:01.209
So therefore,

00:34:02.789 --> 00:34:04.671
it sends your body into a stress.

00:34:05.131 --> 00:34:06.372
But one thing about it,

00:34:07.192 --> 00:34:08.773
and that's why I say listen,

00:34:09.713 --> 00:34:11.635
because they cry out.

00:34:12.369 --> 00:34:13.630
And they cry loud.

00:34:13.951 --> 00:34:16.072
It's either they're going to cry loud of

00:34:16.132 --> 00:34:17.054
how high they get,

00:34:18.195 --> 00:34:20.739
or they're going to cry loud trusting you

00:34:20.759 --> 00:34:23.161
with their secret.

00:34:23.382 --> 00:34:24.784
And that right there,

00:34:24.884 --> 00:34:26.445
I tell parents all the time,

00:34:26.806 --> 00:34:27.266
first of all,

00:34:27.306 --> 00:34:28.807
don't think it can never happen to your

00:34:28.847 --> 00:34:29.148
child.

00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.719
Don't think that your child's not doing

00:34:32.739 --> 00:34:35.340
these things because the world is giving

00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:35.539
it.

00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.481
Yes.

00:34:38.260 --> 00:34:40.101
It's not how much you make.

00:34:40.201 --> 00:34:42.202
It's not the education you have.

00:34:42.762 --> 00:34:46.521
This right here, it has no,

00:34:46.842 --> 00:34:47.822
it don't discriminate.

00:34:48.342 --> 00:34:49.063
It really don't.

00:34:49.583 --> 00:34:49.722
Yeah.

00:34:49.762 --> 00:34:56.704
The son of the vice president and then

00:34:56.744 --> 00:34:57.425
the president.

00:34:58.045 --> 00:34:59.085
Yeah.

00:34:59.164 --> 00:34:59.364
Yeah.

00:35:00.056 --> 00:35:01.579
It's just wherever you have access.

00:35:01.619 --> 00:35:02.340
And like you said,

00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:04.603
if it's someone who's willing to move it

00:35:05.565 --> 00:35:07.228
and try to create a customer,

00:35:07.467 --> 00:35:09.030
because that's just what it is, right?

00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:09.992
That's just how it is.

00:35:10.012 --> 00:35:12.396
If somebody pushing something to make a

00:35:12.436 --> 00:35:12.876
profit,

00:35:13.757 --> 00:35:16.057
at your expense, at your life,

00:35:16.237 --> 00:35:17.139
at your family.

00:35:17.518 --> 00:35:20.019
And that's why we have to continue to

00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:21.641
have these conversations so people can

00:35:21.701 --> 00:35:22.161
stop.

00:35:23.121 --> 00:35:24.663
Because if we stop buying it,

00:35:24.722 --> 00:35:26.063
if we start letting people know what it

00:35:26.083 --> 00:35:27.405
looks like, what it smells like,

00:35:27.545 --> 00:35:28.764
what it sounds like,

00:35:29.465 --> 00:35:32.987
how it shows up in the physical after

00:35:33.027 --> 00:35:34.849
you've ingested it,

00:35:34.909 --> 00:35:36.809
now we can start doing things about it.

00:35:37.210 --> 00:35:38.391
And before I met you,

00:35:39.150 --> 00:35:40.871
I didn't know about this.

00:35:41.521 --> 00:35:44.463
all together so we every every generation

00:35:44.543 --> 00:35:46.125
it seems like it's a new it's something

00:35:46.144 --> 00:35:48.045
that was cracked there was you know a

00:35:48.065 --> 00:35:49.847
lot and people are doing it and all

00:35:49.887 --> 00:35:52.367
types of things so it's just about

00:35:53.128 --> 00:35:55.690
educating folks and letting people know

00:35:55.710 --> 00:35:57.271
and get aware because listen there are

00:35:57.311 --> 00:36:00.092
some evil people out here yes it is

00:36:00.112 --> 00:36:02.512
they are willing to make money for your

00:36:02.572 --> 00:36:06.295
life it is to take your life you

00:36:06.335 --> 00:36:08.876
know so you ladies have you can't y'all

00:36:09.016 --> 00:36:10.498
both of y'all have dropped some knowledge

00:36:10.557 --> 00:36:10.838
on me

00:36:11.704 --> 00:36:12.043
you know,

00:36:12.204 --> 00:36:14.565
in navigating this entire space and making

00:36:14.585 --> 00:36:15.204
sure, because, you know,

00:36:15.244 --> 00:36:17.846
being around kids, mentoring kids,

00:36:17.905 --> 00:36:19.786
you want to, we all, it's a village.

00:36:20.106 --> 00:36:21.005
It takes a village.

00:36:21.385 --> 00:36:21.887
It is.

00:36:21.927 --> 00:36:23.246
And we really need to look out for,

00:36:23.266 --> 00:36:24.786
do you have any upcoming events or

00:36:24.867 --> 00:36:25.086
anything?

00:36:25.106 --> 00:36:26.128
I know you said you're about to go

00:36:26.168 --> 00:36:27.827
out of town and then we'll let that

00:36:28.007 --> 00:36:29.568
wrap up and tell everybody what you're

00:36:29.588 --> 00:36:31.009
doing one more time and how they can

00:36:31.048 --> 00:36:31.628
support you.

00:36:32.306 --> 00:36:32.606
Okay,

00:36:32.666 --> 00:36:34.708
so I am going out of town for

00:36:34.909 --> 00:36:38.393
Tennessee Overdose Prevention Day because

00:36:38.413 --> 00:36:39.032
in Georgia,

00:36:39.893 --> 00:36:41.876
next year is going to be different because

00:36:41.936 --> 00:36:43.257
I'm bringing it to Georgia.

00:36:43.998 --> 00:36:47.181
But they have this big thing for Overdose

00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:48.041
Awareness Day,

00:36:48.061 --> 00:36:49.623
which is August thirty first.

00:36:50.003 --> 00:36:50.844
So I'm going out there.

00:36:50.864 --> 00:36:55.168
I'm actually speaking in Covington on

00:36:55.268 --> 00:36:55.909
Friday.

00:36:57.949 --> 00:37:00.490
at Conyers Methodist Church for their

00:37:00.650 --> 00:37:02.251
overdose awareness program.

00:37:02.710 --> 00:37:04.572
But we have a big car show that's

00:37:04.612 --> 00:37:06.112
coming up October the tenth.

00:37:06.452 --> 00:37:07.731
It's going to be in Newton County.

00:37:07.791 --> 00:37:09.733
We partner with the Drug and Alcohol

00:37:11.112 --> 00:37:12.534
Council of Georgia,

00:37:13.213 --> 00:37:14.793
and we're bringing the entertainment

00:37:14.833 --> 00:37:15.634
portion of it.

00:37:16.275 --> 00:37:17.795
And it's the car show.

00:37:18.643 --> 00:37:20.766
and giving out educational materials

00:37:20.847 --> 00:37:23.248
educating the community and it's supposed

00:37:23.268 --> 00:37:27.172
to be six hundred youth out there and

00:37:27.193 --> 00:37:29.496
those cars attract the youth and then we

00:37:29.516 --> 00:37:36.664
can educate them that's it that's it so

00:37:36.824 --> 00:37:38.505
like i i do like to tell people

00:37:39.125 --> 00:37:41.445
If you would like to have the foundation

00:37:41.525 --> 00:37:42.327
at your events,

00:37:42.606 --> 00:37:44.788
one thing that we have been specializing

00:37:44.867 --> 00:37:46.387
in is bringing a car show.

00:37:46.969 --> 00:37:48.730
And we have a car club that does

00:37:48.809 --> 00:37:51.251
nothing but car shows for a cause.

00:37:51.291 --> 00:37:52.972
Oh, wow.

00:37:53.032 --> 00:37:54.211
That's amazing.

00:37:54.271 --> 00:37:55.293
Yes.

00:37:55.313 --> 00:37:57.173
So we'll have to support that.

00:37:57.213 --> 00:37:58.793
That date again was August thirty first.

00:37:59.315 --> 00:37:59.454
No,

00:37:59.554 --> 00:38:01.014
August thirty first is Monday when I'm

00:38:01.034 --> 00:38:01.936
going to Tennessee.

00:38:02.036 --> 00:38:03.996
This date is October the tenth.

00:38:04.356 --> 00:38:07.097
And I think it's at Lincoln Field and

00:38:07.237 --> 00:38:08.559
Conyers or Covington.

00:38:10.219 --> 00:38:12.400
It's like on the line on your website.

00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:14.041
It's not on the website yet.

00:38:14.081 --> 00:38:15.922
I'm waiting on the drug and alcohol

00:38:16.164 --> 00:38:19.326
council to update me with the flyer so

00:38:19.445 --> 00:38:21.347
I can put that information out on my

00:38:21.387 --> 00:38:21.967
website.

00:38:22.327 --> 00:38:24.670
But stay up with our social media as

00:38:24.730 --> 00:38:25.050
well.

00:38:25.090 --> 00:38:26.931
We do have a Facebook and it's the

00:38:26.952 --> 00:38:29.193
Marquavius Bernard Broughton Foundation.

00:38:29.914 --> 00:38:32.376
And we have a TikTok,

00:38:32.416 --> 00:38:34.677
which is also MBB Foundation.

00:38:35.637 --> 00:38:39.139
ink um but i try to keep everything

00:38:39.219 --> 00:38:41.780
on social media they shut my instagram

00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:43.639
down and said i was selling drugs so

00:38:44.139 --> 00:38:48.360
oh lord four times my nerves them in

00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:51.262
tick tock but but they'll shut you down

00:38:51.282 --> 00:38:52.922
but somebody can have delivered to your

00:38:52.961 --> 00:38:54.943
house in an uber or two book okay

00:38:55.422 --> 00:38:58.403
yeah which started on instagram you could

00:38:58.423 --> 00:39:03.005
be on ig half naked yeah it's okay

00:39:03.025 --> 00:39:03.724
it's just the devil

00:39:05.822 --> 00:39:06.403
She's stupid.

00:39:15.362 --> 00:39:19.204
You can keep up with the Markavius Rotten

00:39:19.244 --> 00:39:23.206
Foundation at mbbfoundation.org.

00:39:23.327 --> 00:39:26.668
And also you can email Frederica at info

00:39:26.809 --> 00:39:29.750
at mbbfoundation.org.

00:39:30.250 --> 00:39:31.090
One last thing.

00:39:31.610 --> 00:39:32.791
I want to give a phone number.

00:39:32.911 --> 00:39:34.452
Anytime they want to reach out to me,

00:39:34.492 --> 00:39:37.074
if you dial one eight four four one

00:39:37.134 --> 00:39:38.974
life, you'll get me.

00:39:39.896 --> 00:39:44.097
One eight four four one life.

00:39:44.724 --> 00:39:46.925
Is that the number one or spelled out?

00:39:47.224 --> 00:39:47.865
Spelled out.

00:39:48.485 --> 00:39:48.885
Okay.

00:39:49.306 --> 00:39:52.108
Yeah, that would make sense, wouldn't it?

00:39:52.148 --> 00:39:54.949
That would make sense.

00:39:54.969 --> 00:39:58.391
You need ten digits.

00:39:58.431 --> 00:40:01.452
One day for one life.

00:40:02.733 --> 00:40:06.096
And you can reach out to Frederica,

00:40:06.576 --> 00:40:08.277
learn more about the foundation,

00:40:08.297 --> 00:40:09.797
learn how to get Narcan,

00:40:11.077 --> 00:40:12.099
learn how to save a life.

00:40:14.228 --> 00:40:14.289
Yes.

00:40:14.449 --> 00:40:15.250
And that life might be your own.

00:40:16.210 --> 00:40:16.610
Yes.

00:40:17.150 --> 00:40:18.311
And I speak anywhere.

00:40:18.371 --> 00:40:19.753
So if you want me to come speak,

00:40:19.833 --> 00:40:21.795
tell the story, train on Narcan,

00:40:22.414 --> 00:40:23.896
I am there.

00:40:24.916 --> 00:40:25.777
I mean, you called me,

00:40:25.898 --> 00:40:27.338
Wanda called me on a Tuesday.

00:40:27.398 --> 00:40:28.079
On Thursday,

00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:29.721
I was speaking down in middle Georgia.

00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:30.442
I traveled.

00:40:31.163 --> 00:40:33.403
And so I literally,

00:40:33.644 --> 00:40:35.846
I won't stop talking about this because

00:40:36.005 --> 00:40:36.606
like I say,

00:40:36.666 --> 00:40:38.487
this is Quay's heartbeat and we're going

00:40:38.507 --> 00:40:39.068
to be strong.

00:40:40.164 --> 00:40:44.568
Thank you for doing this work in his

00:40:44.648 --> 00:40:45.128
legacy.

00:40:45.188 --> 00:40:45.728
Thank you.

00:40:46.028 --> 00:40:46.590
Thank you.

00:40:47.070 --> 00:40:49.532
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00:40:49.572 --> 00:40:51.333
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