Too Young for Breast Cancer? Chantel Roberts’ Story of Survival

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Hello,

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and welcome back to Conversations with

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Karen and Kat,

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the podcast where we connect with powerful

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changemakers, visionaries,

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and everyday heroes who are shaping

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culture and community.

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I am Karen Scott Green.

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And I'm Kat Hardrick.

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Today in our love seats,

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we are joined by Michelle and Chantel

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Roberts,

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the CEO and CFO of Survivor Legacy,

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an organization born from a deeply

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personal journey with cancer, family,

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faith, and perseverance.

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At just thirty years old,

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Chantel was diagnosed with stage three

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breast cancer,

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in twenty twenty three.

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Her diagnosis came after her family had

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already experienced a devastating loss of

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her cousin, Nancy,

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who passed away from cancer at just thirty

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nine years old,

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leaving behind two young children during

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Chantel's treatment.

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A conversation with her mother about

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honoring Nancy's legacy helped inspire the

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name Survivors Legacy,

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a reminder that the impact of those

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touched by cancer continues through the

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lives they inspire.

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Today,

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Michelle and Chantel are turning their

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family's experience into purpose through

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Survivor Legacy.

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We're excited to hear about your story and

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to learn how you're helping others.

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And we'll talk more about the work that

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they're doing

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and they have a five K coming up

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for breast cancer and lung cancer at

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Alexander Park in Lawrenceville.

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But today, ladies,

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thank you for joining us.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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So Chantel, I wanna start with you.

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You're diagnosed at thirty years old with

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stage three breast cancer.

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Did you have any family history?

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Was there anything that put this on your

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radar to get my breast exam?

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What brought it to your attention?

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So I was in the shower and I

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felt a lump on my right side,

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like right underneath my arm.

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So like, you know,

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they always tell you to check.

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So my hand was up in the air,

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washing under my arm and I felt a

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lump.

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And then I just pretty much was like,

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yeah,

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I need to go get checked because I

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know that there is a few people in

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my family that did have it.

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Theirs wasn't as severe as mine's,

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but because of my age,

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by time I was able to get treated,

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it had progressed because it was like this

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small when I first felt it,

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but by time,

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I was diagnosed.

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My whole breast was pretty much infected

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to the point it transferred to my lymph

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nodes under my arm.

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So from the time you felt the lump

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to the time you were diagnosed,

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how long was that?

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So I felt the lump in December and

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I didn't get diagnosed until February.

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Okay.

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Why did it take two months?

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What was going on?

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I went to,

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because of my age for one,

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I went to urgent care first because my

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OB had, the appointments were so far out.

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So I went to urgent care just,

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you know,

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for somebody to look at me and they

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was like, no, you're too young,

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it's not breast cancer.

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And when I told them that I did

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have a few family members that had it,

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they was like, oh,

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that's not close enough for it to be

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anything crazy.

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so they gave me antibiotics because they

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asked me if i if i had a

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child if i breastfed and they said it

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could just be infected milk ducks so they

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gave me the antibiotic antibiotics it was

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supposed to be for ten days and i

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think after day three i was like this

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is not working because you know when

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you're on antibiotics you know it works

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right away like you start feeling it so

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i didn't feel anything within the first

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two to three days and i just stopped

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taking it and then

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I called my OB again,

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and then they pushed up my appointment.

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I got another appointment.

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And when I got there,

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she basically explained to me like, hey,

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yeah, technically when you're this age,

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it's not really a push to go get

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checked.

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It's, you know, because you're so young.

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And then she put in the order for

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me to get the mammogram and everything.

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So even with your family history,

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there was no sense of urgency by medical

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personnel?

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Not really, no.

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was more like oh you're young you'll be

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okay it's just you but you know you

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have to know your body and i was

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like no it went from a little thing

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to i could see the difference in my

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breasts and i already had big breasts so

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i could see the complete difference in the

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two so it's good that you were an

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advocate for yourself but mom when you had

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to be strong for your daughter

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going through this process,

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what are some things you had to realize

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about yourself and your own concerns about

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your baby's well-being?

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So about myself,

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so my mom died from ovarian cancer at

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a very young age.

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She was forty eight.

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Chantel wasn't born yet when my mother

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died.

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Um, so based on that,

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my kids had to be checked at an

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earlier age until did go and get checked

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before in November.

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But when she went in November and she

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did her mammogram, nothing showed up.

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And I think it has happened for a

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long while.

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So we can, the story kind of get.

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messed up a little bit, I'm sorry,

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where we may leave some things out or

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just forget because it's been a while.

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However,

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when she went for the first test and

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they told her it was milk ducts built

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up, as she said, she know her body.

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She's like, mom,

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I don't think this is milk ducts built

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up because my breast is getting harder and

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it's getting dark.

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And she went back to the doctor and

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That's when they decided,

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they said she was too young.

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And I'm like,

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remember your grandmother died from this

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cancer.

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And she told them,

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and she was able to get her date

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moved up closer and she got her mammogram

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done.

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And when she got her mammogram done and

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was it your,

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what did they send you for biopsy?

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They sent her for a biopsy after that.

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And that's when they found out what she

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had.

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I wasn't here when it happened.

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I was actually traveling with a family

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member for a family member service.

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And she called and said, mom,

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they have my day for Tuesday.

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So I said, okay, I'm coming back.

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So I came back and we went together.

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And before we went in,

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we're from a very spiritual family.

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So of course we went in strong and

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we went in knowing that God is the

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person that we're putting before us,

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regardless of what the results were.

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And when they told us what it was,

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I think she was a little nervous because

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she's thirty years old,

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just turned thirty.

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And to hear something like that is like,

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Why me?

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But at the same time,

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she stepped back and she said,

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you know what, where am I?

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What stage am I?

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And she started asking questions.

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And because my needs had passed from

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something different,

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we became more of advocate for ourselves

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and were able to ask more questions and

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push for other things to be done so

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she could get her treatment done at a

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faster pace.

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Well,

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thank God you guys were advocates for

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yourself.

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Absolutely.

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Chantel,

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what treatment did you decide that you opt

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to go with for treating your breast

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cancer?

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So I went through chemo and radiation.

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So my chemo was supposed to originally,

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I think it was supposed to be like

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six months, but after I had my surgery,

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They said that it completely shrunk a lot,

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like majority of it,

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but they found a little residue left when

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they did my mastectomy.

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So they extended my chemo treatment

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because of that,

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even though they had did the mastectomy,

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because they said that there can be a

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little breast tissue left because they

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don't always,

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they don't a hundred percent guarantee

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they could get all the breast tissue.

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So, and then I did radiation as well.

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Okay.

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During your treatment, I'm sorry, Karen,

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but while you're talking about your

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treatment sis,

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I know a lot of people always probably

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ask you more than not,

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how are you doing?

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How are you doing going through this

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process?

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But what is one question you think people

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should have asked you that they didn't?

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To be honest,

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I feel like I had so much different

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questions to the point that people

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yeah literally um but i think some for

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me to be honest the whole how you're

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doing thing was kind of tab it was

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kind of like i don't know like what

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do you want me to tell you like

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i don't know how i'm doing um i'm

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just going but through the process there

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was one of my co-workers she's an older

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lady she went through breast cancer right

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before me she was in remission so i

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called her

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And she kind of kept me on a

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straight and narrow.

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And she was like,

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people are going to say this and people

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are going to say that.

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People are going to give you remedies.

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People are going to, you know,

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all types of things.

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And they haven't been through it.

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How many people told you to boil soursop

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leaves?

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Everybody.

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One of my uncles brought a whole bag

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from Florida for me.

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My husband had prostate cancer and I had

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a few friends.

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I drank it like my aunt in England

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called me.

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She was like, drink it.

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So I boiled it.

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I drank it.

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I still drink it now,

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but I make it into like a sweet

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tea.

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I put agave in there and just drink

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it like juice instead of the tea.

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But I would say pretty much

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like there was a couple of people that

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i went through it with that they were

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older but one lady she told me when

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i you know we were just talking and

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she was like you know if jesus went

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through what he went through who are we

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and ever since then i kind of just

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it is what it is you know i

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know that's right one of my pastors used

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to say um

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He would say,

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when you're going through something and

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people say, Lord, why me?

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And his response is, why not you?

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You got somebody else you want to

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volunteer to go through what you're going

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through?

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God,

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you're going through something for a

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reason.

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And not that your cancer was to serve

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a purpose, but he brought you through.

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And that faith is what carried you

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through.

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I'm sure you'd have much rather not have

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had the cancer and still have the faith.

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But, you know, just like when you say,

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why not?

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Why me?

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Why me?

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Why not me?

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Because, God, I got you.

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You got me.

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And I know that you're with me as

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I'm walking through this and you're

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carrying me through this.

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I always think about that when I'm going

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through something and I'm lamenting about

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the thing that I'm going through.

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Like,

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do I have somebody else I want to

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volunteer to go through this?

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Right now, I probably would.

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But, you know, it's just...

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Anyway, I digress.

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But there is,

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so sorry to cut you off.

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There's one thing when you asked me that

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question, Kat.

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So like everybody, you know, what can I,

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how are you feeling?

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I think one of the biggest things for

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me in that time, like, you know,

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one of my friends the day before chemo

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she brought me you know she hasn't been

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through any of this she just brought me

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like a heated blanket like a whole bunch

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of random stuff for the day before i

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started chemo like she's like i don't know

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what you need like her her mom and

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sister came just brought me a bunch of

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stuff and then one of my other best

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friends

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It was really a surprise.

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He came to my house one day and,

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you know, just to see me.

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And then he took off his jacket and

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he had a big breast cancer tattoo that

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he got.

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And then he put a Bible verse.

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And I was like,

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my friends like me for real.

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Yeah.

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I think it's more about the support and

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not necessarily the calling and checking

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up on how you're doing.

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It's more of the gestures that you

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actually see where people are willing to

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do stuff for you even when you don't

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ask.

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And so you're diagnosed at thirty when the

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median age for breast cancer diagnosis in

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the United States is between sixty-two and

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sixty-four years old,

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according to data from the National Breast

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Cancer Foundation.

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What would you say to younger women?

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right now who have not had mammograms or

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who maybe have not been as consistent

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about having mammograms?

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What would you say to those young women

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right now?

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I will say advocate for yourself.

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Know your body for sure.

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You have to understand your body to know

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if something's actually going on.

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You can't just listen to what a doctor

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say because when you start going down a

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rabbit hole when you find out certain

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things.

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I did go down a rabbit hole and

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I found out there's a lot of females

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that were like me that pretty much they

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were in their thirties and the doctor was

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like, no, no, no, no, no.

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And some of them found out too late.

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Some people passed away.

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Some people didn't, you know,

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and it's like one of my somebody I

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work with when I found I had just

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started a new job and I was telling

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them that I had to go on leave.

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And she pretty much was like,

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I have breast cancer, too.

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And I was like, you do.

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And she was like, yes,

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but only thing is because she's relatively

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young, too.

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She was like,

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I have to live with mine.

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Mine is inoperable.

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So she has to take a pill every

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day for the rest of her life.

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And pretty much, she's like, I don't know.

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I'm basically a ticking time bomb,

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pretty much.

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So she just lives her life to the

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fullest now, she says.

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But that's when I realized there's a lot

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of us, really, like,

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I don't know where the research is coming

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from,

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because now it's a lot of people under

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six feet that are being diagnosed.

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So I just want to share.

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Go ahead, Kat.

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That speaks to why Survivor Legacy is so

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important.

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So Michelle,

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can you dive into the origin and why

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it's so important and what resources you

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provide?

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Sure.

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So Survivor Legacy was born,

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as you said earlier,

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from a family's pain to now advocating for

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others.

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So my niece, Nancy,

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affectionately known as Nancy.

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Her name is Latoya Brown.

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She was thirty nine.

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She was like Chantel's oldest sister.

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They were with she was here with us

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like her own daughter.

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She's truly one of the person that brought

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this together the last week of her life.

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I ended up staying in Florida with her.

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She was in Tampa General.

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Chantel went down.

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We were all taking turns as family to

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go be with her and take her to

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treatments and everything.

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And throughout the whole process,

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her mom was there with her and the

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doctors kept telling her,

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Oh, she's OK.

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She's going to live.

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She's young.

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She has all of this.

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And I kept saying,

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I'm not very comfortable with the things

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that I'm hearing.

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And of course,

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her mom is a little older,

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and she came from Jamaica at a later

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stage.

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So for her,

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a doctor telling her something,

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she just accepts it.

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Yeah.

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And I kept saying to her,

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I want to come down.

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And she's like, no,

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you don't have to because the doctors say

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this and they say that.

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However,

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one day I was just home and I

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remember it was a working day and I

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just didn't get up.

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Chantel was working from home.

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And she came up and she's like, mom,

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why are you not going to work?

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I'm like, hmm.

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I'm going to go in late.

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Didn't want to tell Chantel that Nancy was

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so much on my mind.

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And I got up and I put my

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gym clothes on to go to work and

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I left the house.

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And as soon as I left the house,

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I went to the gym.

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And when I got to the gym,

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the gym, I couldn't work out.

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So I went to my office and I

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went to get some tea and my phone

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rang and it was Tampa General.

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So I'm like, oh, it's Nancy.

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And it wasn't Nancy,

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it was her doctor calling me to tell

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me to make preparations because her time

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has come.

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I'm like, what are you saying?

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I just talked to her last night and

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she said,

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No, she's in ICU.

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And her mom had just left that Friday.

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And I said, okay, don't do anything.

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I'm on my way.

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And I got in my car.

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I cautioned her.

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I said, hey, I'm heading to Florida.

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They called and said, Nancy's in ICU.

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And her fiance at the time,

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he came and he said, okay,

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I'm going to,

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take my car to you.

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And Chantel packed her bag, went down.

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And when I got there,

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she was up and she knew me and

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she was conscious and everything.

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She felt like she had a dream.

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But when I went there,

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I realized there was a lot of this

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perisy in the African-American community

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of

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the knowledge of how much we know and

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what we don't know and also the support

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that we get.

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And more significantly,

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in the lung cancer community,

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when you have lung cancer,

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you're treated as though you bought that

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cancer in yourself.

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Nancy, our case,

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she had small cell lung cancer,

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which is not of a smoker.

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It's a nonsmoker, small cell lung cancer.

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She never smoked.

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So because of that,

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Survivor Legacy was birthed.

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I was driving one day from finding doctors

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for Chantel, different oncologists.

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We were interviewing doctors, oncologists.

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And on our way back, I'm like, Chantel,

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now that you know, with you having cancer,

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it becomes even more personal.

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I promised Nancy I would do something in

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her memory and keep her name alive.

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But...

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I don't know what to name it and

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what to do.

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Should I call it Chantel?

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I should, Judy, Chantel and Nancy.

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She's like, why?

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And Judy, just so you know,

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is my cousin that I was raised with

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as my sister.

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And she ended up having breast cancer over

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twenty years ago and she's been a

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survivor.

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Four months after Chantel was diagnosed,

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Judy was also diagnosed with something

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called

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vulvar cancer which is a very rare cancer

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it's maybe one in every two thousand

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female that will get it so it's very

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un it's a very uncommon type of cancer

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she said no mom why would you want

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to call it chantal nancy and judy that's

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very narrow-minded and more like for your

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family if you really want to do something

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that will keep legacy alive i think you

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should say survivor legacy

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I said, survivor legacy,

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why would I say survivor legacy when

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Nancy's not here?

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And she said, mom,

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but Nancy have two children that's still

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here.

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We are here as her family.

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And she said,

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you and my daughter would be my survivor

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if anything happened to me.

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I said, well, nothing is going to happen.

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She said,

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I think you should say survivor legacy,

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where it's more exclusive to everyone and

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not inclusive just to your family.

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And immediately I went to register

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survivor legacy.

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through her forward thinking.

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And what are some of the resources you

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provide?

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So what we do, we educate.

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Most importantly, we educate.

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We try to go out in the community.

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We have educational classes.

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So we partner with different medical

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facilities like Northside, Emory,

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Ronald Reagan Screen,

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and a few places that we partner with.

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And we also support

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with local nurses and doctors that can be

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of resources to our caregivers.

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So we have the educational classes.

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We'll do those once a quarter,

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either online or in person.

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We also have resources for those that

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doesn't have resources to go to the doctor

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and know how.

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We will help them with that.

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We will also refer them to medical

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facility that can help them at a

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discounted rate.

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And we also work with survivors with

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counseling.

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We have a pastor in our group on

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our board.

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We also have a nurse,

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two nurses on our board,

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nurse oncology that can tell you about the

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navigation process if you are diagnosed.

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And we also have a gynecologist that we

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work with and she deals more with natural

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things.

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What do you do before you're diagnosed?

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What can we do to prevent cancer?

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Which is the most important one,

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the most crucial one.

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So for us,

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the biggest part of what we do,

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and we also do screening.

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I almost forget that part.

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We partner with Northside and they allow

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us,

00:21:04.114 --> 00:21:05.933
Tabernacle International Church in

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Lawrenceville has given us the leverage of

00:21:09.154 --> 00:21:11.276
using their church to do screening.

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And that is done free for the community,

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whoever want to register and come in when

00:21:15.558 --> 00:21:16.279
we're doing it.

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We've had so far three screenings for the

00:21:19.201 --> 00:21:19.542
year.

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So whenever we have it and the hospital

00:21:21.584 --> 00:21:22.045
is ready,

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we go ahead and schedule those for people

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to come in that cannot afford to get

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screening.

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What's your website?

00:21:31.214 --> 00:21:35.596
It's www.survivorlegacy.com.

00:21:35.796 --> 00:21:37.676
And we're also on social media.

00:21:38.076 --> 00:21:39.538
It's right here in front of us,

00:21:40.097 --> 00:21:41.577
survivorlegacy.com.

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We also have Instagram.

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We also have Facebook.

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And we also have YouTube.

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And I'm sorry,

00:21:50.441 --> 00:21:52.862
I'm mistaken with my Survivor Legacy.

00:21:52.882 --> 00:21:54.021
Chantel, just correct me.

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I left the ink off.

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So it's www.survivorlegacyinc.com.

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Yeah,

00:22:04.588 --> 00:22:07.792
so for those of you that are listening

00:22:09.233 --> 00:22:13.679
and are not watching us on video, again,

00:22:13.719 --> 00:22:19.905
that is www.survivorlegacyinc.com.

00:22:20.358 --> 00:22:21.920
where you can find out more information

00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.941
about the organization and the resources

00:22:24.980 --> 00:22:26.101
that they provide.

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And you have a run walk coming up,

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is that right?

00:22:31.202 --> 00:22:31.962
Yes, we do.

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We have a five K coming up,

00:22:33.523 --> 00:22:35.244
lung and breast cancer five K,

00:22:35.265 --> 00:22:36.884
but of course everyone is welcome.

00:22:36.904 --> 00:22:38.645
The entire community in Lawrenceville is

00:22:38.705 --> 00:22:39.185
welcome.

00:22:39.705 --> 00:22:41.406
We had it last year and it was

00:22:41.507 --> 00:22:43.208
well attended on November first.

00:22:43.248 --> 00:22:45.969
It was freezing cold and the community

00:22:46.028 --> 00:22:47.769
really showed up and we're looking for the

00:22:47.828 --> 00:22:49.309
same or more this year.

00:22:49.869 --> 00:22:51.751
We're having some great speakers there.

00:22:51.791 --> 00:22:53.333
We'll have an oncologist that's going to

00:22:53.353 --> 00:22:54.874
be speaking on lung cancer.

00:22:55.354 --> 00:22:57.195
We'll have a nurse oncologist there.

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Again,

00:22:57.955 --> 00:22:59.557
we'll have a gynecologist there that's

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going to speak about what can we do

00:23:01.159 --> 00:23:02.119
to prevent cancer,

00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:03.780
what lifestyle we need to live,

00:23:04.161 --> 00:23:05.602
the things that we need to do.

00:23:05.721 --> 00:23:08.605
And we'll also have two survivors that's

00:23:08.625 --> 00:23:10.705
going to be sharing their stories with us.

00:23:11.307 --> 00:23:11.906
Oh, wow.

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That's amazing.

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And that runoff will be at Alexander Park

00:23:15.789 --> 00:23:17.892
on October the seventeenth at eight a.m.

00:23:18.378 --> 00:23:19.960
And if anyone is interested,

00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:22.721
please go to their website at

00:23:23.181 --> 00:23:26.682
survivorlegacyinc.com so you can register

00:23:26.762 --> 00:23:27.462
and sign up.

00:23:27.542 --> 00:23:29.044
And we do ask that, well,

00:23:29.084 --> 00:23:31.265
this organization asks that you register.

00:23:32.125 --> 00:23:33.246
So please sign up.

00:23:33.346 --> 00:23:35.006
It's definitely for a great cause.

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Yes.

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And we will also provide a direct link

00:23:38.428 --> 00:23:40.209
to the five K registration,

00:23:40.229 --> 00:23:41.969
which is on give butter.com.

00:23:42.789 --> 00:23:45.490
And that link will be provided on our

00:23:45.550 --> 00:23:47.731
website and also on

00:23:48.415 --> 00:23:51.058
the, uh, where the podcast will be posted.

00:23:51.078 --> 00:23:53.781
And so you can also sign up there

00:23:53.821 --> 00:23:56.224
for the five K, but, um,

00:23:56.826 --> 00:23:58.428
I also wanted to make sure that we

00:23:58.468 --> 00:24:00.710
give out some information cause you know,

00:24:01.070 --> 00:24:01.250
uh,

00:24:02.167 --> 00:24:03.567
conversation with Karen and Kat,

00:24:03.828 --> 00:24:06.288
where we're all about facts and dropping

00:24:06.449 --> 00:24:07.009
nuggets.

00:24:08.269 --> 00:24:11.070
Chantel was thirty when she was diagnosed,

00:24:11.090 --> 00:24:12.411
when her cancer was found.

00:24:12.750 --> 00:24:15.231
About ten percent of new breast cancer

00:24:15.271 --> 00:24:18.192
diagnoses occur in women under the age of

00:24:18.251 --> 00:24:19.012
forty five.

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So although the majority,

00:24:21.792 --> 00:24:24.233
the large portion of women who are

00:24:24.273 --> 00:24:26.115
diagnosed are between the ages of sixty

00:24:26.134 --> 00:24:27.015
two and sixty four,

00:24:27.634 --> 00:24:28.635
As we've shown,

00:24:29.057 --> 00:24:32.259
ten percent of new diagnoses are under the

00:24:32.460 --> 00:24:33.421
age of forty five,

00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.703
and those chances increase if you have a

00:24:36.784 --> 00:24:38.005
family history.

00:24:38.525 --> 00:24:41.048
And so and there's differences in in

00:24:42.429 --> 00:24:45.329
black and white women who are getting

00:24:45.369 --> 00:24:45.970
diagnosed.

00:24:46.269 --> 00:24:48.510
The median age of diagnosis tends to be

00:24:48.570 --> 00:24:50.770
younger for black women at around sixty to

00:24:50.810 --> 00:24:53.251
sixty two years of age.

00:24:53.491 --> 00:24:54.771
And for white women,

00:24:54.811 --> 00:24:57.752
the median age tends to range from sixty

00:24:57.792 --> 00:24:59.512
two to sixty six,

00:24:59.673 --> 00:25:02.153
as tracked by breast cancer dot org.

00:25:03.094 --> 00:25:05.315
And surprisingly enough,

00:25:07.076 --> 00:25:07.776
Approximately,

00:25:07.976 --> 00:25:09.997
one thousand fifty five women are

00:25:10.057 --> 00:25:12.278
diagnosed with breast cancer each day,

00:25:12.557 --> 00:25:15.578
day, day,

00:25:15.598 --> 00:25:18.560
which translates to a woman being

00:25:18.621 --> 00:25:21.442
diagnosed every two minutes.

00:25:21.541 --> 00:25:23.883
And that's from the breast cancer,

00:25:25.202 --> 00:25:27.483
the Breast Cancer Research Foundation.

00:25:27.844 --> 00:25:29.244
So those are staggering numbers.

00:25:29.325 --> 00:25:32.365
And what we also know is that.

00:25:33.578 --> 00:25:37.221
Black women tend to get more aggressive

00:25:37.422 --> 00:25:41.185
forms of cancer at a higher rate than

00:25:41.306 --> 00:25:42.086
other races.

00:25:42.166 --> 00:25:46.230
So when we need you to be checking

00:25:46.830 --> 00:25:47.311
monthly.

00:25:49.314 --> 00:25:51.256
And if you have dense breasts,

00:25:52.037 --> 00:25:53.218
for those women who've been told that you

00:25:53.258 --> 00:25:54.199
have dense breasts,

00:25:54.578 --> 00:25:56.622
you need to also be asking for a

00:25:56.741 --> 00:25:59.785
second screening if your breasts are dense

00:25:59.805 --> 00:26:01.606
and they're not getting good imaging.

00:26:01.946 --> 00:26:03.848
That's an issue that I end up having

00:26:03.868 --> 00:26:04.210
to have,

00:26:04.250 --> 00:26:05.770
and sometimes we'll have to have that

00:26:05.851 --> 00:26:06.731
second screening.

00:26:07.712 --> 00:26:08.594
And so that's important.

00:26:08.794 --> 00:26:09.775
You likely wanted to say something,

00:26:09.795 --> 00:26:10.115
Michelle.

00:26:14.459 --> 00:26:16.720
No, I was listening to you.

00:26:16.780 --> 00:26:17.221
Go ahead.

00:26:17.361 --> 00:26:17.560
Sorry.

00:26:17.580 --> 00:26:19.862
But you were correct about the dense

00:26:19.981 --> 00:26:21.182
tissue in your breast.

00:26:23.604 --> 00:26:24.765
Was that one of the issues?

00:26:24.785 --> 00:26:25.305
I'm sorry.

00:26:25.384 --> 00:26:27.006
I was saying you're correct about the

00:26:27.026 --> 00:26:28.406
dense tissue in your breast.

00:26:30.508 --> 00:26:31.489
Did either one of you have...

00:26:31.509 --> 00:26:32.888
I know for sure with a lot of

00:26:32.949 --> 00:26:35.611
the survivors that we deal with,

00:26:36.330 --> 00:26:37.231
I think we're going in and out.

00:26:38.470 --> 00:26:39.990
I was saying I do have it.

00:26:40.550 --> 00:26:41.352
I've had it.

00:26:41.531 --> 00:26:44.093
However, in our community with survivors,

00:26:44.333 --> 00:26:46.294
that's what most of them were told

00:26:46.374 --> 00:26:48.474
initially is dense tissue.

00:26:48.795 --> 00:26:51.297
You don't have to worry about it unless

00:26:51.336 --> 00:26:52.596
you become an advocate.

00:26:52.616 --> 00:26:54.438
And that's where survivor legacy comes in.

00:26:54.478 --> 00:26:56.598
We're always having these either Facebook

00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:57.920
live in person,

00:26:57.940 --> 00:26:59.580
and we have the medical professionals

00:26:59.621 --> 00:27:00.000
there.

00:27:00.381 --> 00:27:02.502
They're telling you to ask your doctor to

00:27:02.542 --> 00:27:03.282
go further.

00:27:03.682 --> 00:27:05.064
Can we have an additional

00:27:06.772 --> 00:27:07.473
test done,

00:27:07.795 --> 00:27:11.682
especially if you have a family history.

00:27:13.565 --> 00:27:16.410
Ask for ultrasound, for example.

00:27:17.872 --> 00:27:20.436
Ask for them to have a history.

00:27:21.174 --> 00:27:21.734
That's right.

00:27:22.655 --> 00:27:24.136
If you do have the dense breasts,

00:27:24.336 --> 00:27:27.878
ask for that ultrasound after you've had

00:27:27.898 --> 00:27:28.858
your mammogram.

00:27:29.179 --> 00:27:30.440
And I know that there are women who

00:27:30.500 --> 00:27:33.682
don't want to do... It's uncomfortable.

00:27:33.721 --> 00:27:34.481
Let's just be honest.

00:27:34.521 --> 00:27:35.442
It is.

00:27:37.063 --> 00:27:38.023
It's uncomfortable,

00:27:38.084 --> 00:27:40.944
but better you be uncomfortable than to

00:27:41.045 --> 00:27:42.306
find out late stage.

00:27:42.546 --> 00:27:43.267
Go ahead, Catherine.

00:27:43.467 --> 00:27:45.428
You know, two things.

00:27:45.788 --> 00:27:46.008
One,

00:27:46.288 --> 00:27:47.489
I know we're saying that we need to

00:27:47.528 --> 00:27:49.250
get second opinions, but do we...

00:27:50.070 --> 00:27:53.231
Do we realize or factor in the cost

00:27:53.632 --> 00:27:56.693
associated with the charges for

00:27:56.733 --> 00:27:57.653
mammograms?

00:27:58.534 --> 00:28:00.654
Do we think that that's a barrier to

00:28:00.775 --> 00:28:04.896
women getting proper screening outside of

00:28:04.997 --> 00:28:08.038
what their insurance may allow for?

00:28:08.097 --> 00:28:11.398
Maybe because your insurance may allow one

00:28:11.479 --> 00:28:12.799
check that they cover.

00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:14.900
But if you have a second opinion,

00:28:15.259 --> 00:28:16.621
that may be something you may have to

00:28:16.641 --> 00:28:17.921
pay out of pocket.

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:19.281
And then the second question is,

00:28:19.844 --> 00:28:21.724
How early should we start checking our

00:28:21.744 --> 00:28:24.984
breasts?

00:28:25.025 --> 00:28:25.506
And Kat,

00:28:25.566 --> 00:28:27.326
you're absolutely correct about that.

00:28:27.385 --> 00:28:28.685
I think a lot of people won't get

00:28:28.726 --> 00:28:31.126
a second opinion or won't ask their doctor

00:28:31.166 --> 00:28:32.567
to do a different screening because

00:28:32.607 --> 00:28:33.928
they're thinking it's the cost.

00:28:34.347 --> 00:28:36.028
But only one way for you to know

00:28:36.169 --> 00:28:37.909
is to ask and to try.

00:28:38.328 --> 00:28:40.049
And they have resources out there.

00:28:40.069 --> 00:28:41.329
And when you go to our events,

00:28:41.369 --> 00:28:42.650
we have medical professionals.

00:28:42.690 --> 00:28:43.069
Of course,

00:28:43.150 --> 00:28:44.730
I am not a medical professional.

00:28:45.191 --> 00:28:46.471
And that's why we go out and get

00:28:46.491 --> 00:28:47.652
the resources for you.

00:28:47.771 --> 00:28:49.532
And they will share different

00:28:49.633 --> 00:28:52.032
organizations that will help you to get

00:28:52.093 --> 00:28:54.594
those things done at a reduced or no

00:28:54.614 --> 00:28:57.615
cost based on your financial status and

00:28:57.654 --> 00:28:58.476
your work status.

00:28:58.635 --> 00:29:00.195
You will get those things done for you

00:29:00.215 --> 00:29:00.756
for free.

00:29:01.136 --> 00:29:01.717
And again,

00:29:02.096 --> 00:29:04.258
Northside have been so generous to us that

00:29:04.278 --> 00:29:05.397
they are willing to come out

00:29:05.817 --> 00:29:06.598
to Lawrenceville,

00:29:06.618 --> 00:29:08.579
to Gwinnett County and do free screenings.

00:29:09.020 --> 00:29:11.122
But just to get individuals to sign up,

00:29:11.221 --> 00:29:12.222
a lot of people,

00:29:12.323 --> 00:29:13.844
especially in the African-American

00:29:13.884 --> 00:29:14.565
community,

00:29:14.924 --> 00:29:16.705
you would be amazed that don't want to

00:29:16.746 --> 00:29:20.128
know if they are carrying the disease or

00:29:20.189 --> 00:29:20.729
they don't.

00:29:20.828 --> 00:29:22.510
They'd rather not to know.

00:29:22.911 --> 00:29:24.592
So for us, we're asking people,

00:29:24.632 --> 00:29:25.532
don't be afraid.

00:29:25.772 --> 00:29:27.374
No one that has cancer should have to

00:29:27.433 --> 00:29:28.134
walk alone.

00:29:28.575 --> 00:29:30.316
And if you don't have it,

00:29:30.396 --> 00:29:32.117
advocate for someone else and help.

00:29:32.137 --> 00:29:33.638
Yeah.

00:29:33.739 --> 00:29:34.859
And what's the youngest age?

00:29:38.883 --> 00:29:40.183
the youngest age for screening?

00:29:40.284 --> 00:29:42.125
From what I have seen,

00:29:42.326 --> 00:29:44.728
I have personally seen sixteen years old

00:29:44.768 --> 00:29:48.309
that have breast cancer from Survival

00:29:48.349 --> 00:29:48.711
Legacy,

00:29:48.750 --> 00:29:50.471
someone that reached out to us that's

00:29:50.551 --> 00:29:52.212
sixteen years old that lives in Augusta,

00:29:52.252 --> 00:29:52.713
Georgia.

00:29:53.193 --> 00:29:53.594
However,

00:29:53.875 --> 00:29:55.576
I have not seen a lot of those

00:29:55.615 --> 00:29:56.016
cases,

00:29:56.056 --> 00:29:57.698
but I'm sure there's quite a few of

00:29:57.738 --> 00:29:58.538
them out there.

00:29:58.959 --> 00:30:01.220
When Chantel was diagnosed and we sat with

00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.781
her oncologist and we asked him about that

00:30:03.821 --> 00:30:05.022
and he said to us, you know,

00:30:06.707 --> 00:30:08.728
to me now we're looking at this as

00:30:08.788 --> 00:30:11.269
a board overall and we're saying what is

00:30:11.309 --> 00:30:13.510
going on in the community the thirty

00:30:13.711 --> 00:30:16.212
thirty and under that's getting diagnosed

00:30:16.232 --> 00:30:17.472
with breast cancer it's becoming a

00:30:17.573 --> 00:30:20.255
pandemic and aggressive forms of

00:30:20.634 --> 00:30:23.557
aggressive forms yes and so kat um to

00:30:23.696 --> 00:30:26.739
answer your question i would say as soon

00:30:27.019 --> 00:30:30.661
as a young woman starts uh starts her

00:30:30.780 --> 00:30:33.982
cycle you should be taught to to do

00:30:34.063 --> 00:30:35.943
self breast exams every month

00:30:36.604 --> 00:30:37.003
Right.

00:30:37.203 --> 00:30:40.425
So so it just becomes a so it

00:30:40.445 --> 00:30:41.707
becomes routine.

00:30:42.047 --> 00:30:44.749
And so she becomes so that a young

00:30:44.788 --> 00:30:47.369
woman can become aware of when something

00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:48.810
has changed in her breasts.

00:30:48.830 --> 00:30:50.751
Because if you're checking every month and

00:30:50.771 --> 00:30:52.814
you finally realize, oh,

00:30:53.233 --> 00:30:55.974
that wasn't there before.

00:30:56.796 --> 00:30:58.517
And then you can get that followed up.

00:30:59.127 --> 00:30:59.528
Yeah,

00:30:59.548 --> 00:31:01.068
because you look on the Internet like I'm

00:31:01.108 --> 00:31:03.630
searching this is like around age twenty

00:31:03.670 --> 00:31:04.190
or whatnot.

00:31:04.250 --> 00:31:05.330
But like you said,

00:31:05.490 --> 00:31:07.310
at what age we should start,

00:31:07.351 --> 00:31:10.212
because the earlier intervention is the

00:31:10.252 --> 00:31:10.732
best way.

00:31:10.752 --> 00:31:13.054
And if we start having those conversations

00:31:13.574 --> 00:31:15.154
as we're teaching literacy,

00:31:15.595 --> 00:31:17.394
we should be teaching about your wellness.

00:31:17.715 --> 00:31:19.375
We're talking about puberty and we're

00:31:19.395 --> 00:31:21.156
talking about the changes that happen,

00:31:21.497 --> 00:31:22.758
especially as a teenager.

00:31:23.038 --> 00:31:24.538
Then maybe we should start incorporating

00:31:24.557 --> 00:31:24.718
that.

00:31:24.738 --> 00:31:28.539
So then we can ward off that fear.

00:31:29.096 --> 00:31:31.557
that's preventing people from not knowing.

00:31:31.737 --> 00:31:33.759
Because I mean, even with our men,

00:31:33.798 --> 00:31:37.240
men get breast cancer.

00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:39.301
And according to the stats on your website

00:31:39.321 --> 00:31:41.722
on survivorlegacyinc.com,

00:31:41.883 --> 00:31:43.523
it talks about the number of men and

00:31:43.584 --> 00:31:47.385
women who walk around and they don't know.

00:31:47.885 --> 00:31:49.487
And you can't change what you don't

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acknowledge.

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And we can't advocate for you and support

00:31:53.788 --> 00:31:55.410
you if we don't even know where to

00:31:55.430 --> 00:31:55.871
begin.

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So I know it's scary.

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I know it's scary, but what is it?

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An ounce of prevention is a pound of

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cure.

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I went to a seminar two weeks ago

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and they were talking about how soon we

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should start checking.

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And one of the oncologists that was there,

00:32:15.578 --> 00:32:18.401
she said is immediately as a child gets

00:32:18.441 --> 00:32:19.382
to adolescence,

00:32:19.741 --> 00:32:21.903
they should start getting educated and

00:32:22.003 --> 00:32:23.765
what it is to check their body to

00:32:23.904 --> 00:32:24.405
understand.

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And that goes for boys and girls.

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Oh, that's good.

00:32:26.968 --> 00:32:28.669
That's really good.

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You know,

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one of the questions I want to ask,

00:32:30.501 --> 00:32:31.721
I know we're believers.

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What is the scripture that helped carry

00:32:34.623 --> 00:32:35.163
you through?

00:32:36.303 --> 00:32:37.363
If you don't mind sharing.

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For me,

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I think the scripture carried me through,

00:32:42.683 --> 00:32:44.505
but there's one thing that stood out to

00:32:44.565 --> 00:32:44.785
me,

00:32:44.825 --> 00:32:48.005
and it's that there's nothing that we go

00:32:48.045 --> 00:32:48.505
through.

00:32:48.704 --> 00:32:50.125
I can't remember what verse.

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You pretty much put me on the line.

00:32:52.826 --> 00:32:55.467
Okay, girl, look.

00:32:55.886 --> 00:32:57.626
But, you know, if...

00:32:58.463 --> 00:33:00.305
Christ had to go through what he went

00:33:00.365 --> 00:33:02.046
through when he came on earth.

00:33:02.307 --> 00:33:03.788
Who are us not to?

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And I think Chantal was my strongest force

00:33:08.471 --> 00:33:09.451
through her healing.

00:33:10.051 --> 00:33:11.992
I remember one night she had to go

00:33:12.053 --> 00:33:13.673
and do chemo the next morning because I

00:33:13.693 --> 00:33:14.914
would go to every treatment,

00:33:15.015 --> 00:33:16.195
every doctor's appointment.

00:33:16.256 --> 00:33:16.996
I was there.

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And I went in her room that night

00:33:19.137 --> 00:33:19.917
and I said, Chantal,

00:33:20.038 --> 00:33:21.519
what time is your appointment tomorrow?

00:33:21.598 --> 00:33:22.799
And she was laying in her bed and

00:33:22.819 --> 00:33:23.580
she's like, oh, mom,

00:33:23.641 --> 00:33:24.480
I forgot to tell you.

00:33:24.500 --> 00:33:25.541
We're not going tomorrow.

00:33:25.582 --> 00:33:26.303
I said, why?

00:33:26.903 --> 00:33:27.502
And she said,

00:33:29.483 --> 00:33:31.305
The nurse called and said, I cannot,

00:33:31.345 --> 00:33:34.286
my heart rate was too low for me

00:33:34.326 --> 00:33:35.166
to do chemo.

00:33:35.767 --> 00:33:37.807
And it's like everything about me changed

00:33:37.827 --> 00:33:38.428
my demeanor.

00:33:38.508 --> 00:33:40.449
Normally I don't show fear because of my

00:33:40.489 --> 00:33:43.390
spirituality and to be strong for my

00:33:43.450 --> 00:33:43.750
daughter.

00:33:43.789 --> 00:33:46.351
And she said, mom, it's okay.

00:33:46.651 --> 00:33:47.592
Don't worry about it.

00:33:47.771 --> 00:33:48.571
If it's not me,

00:33:48.632 --> 00:33:50.333
then who is somebody else's mom,

00:33:50.393 --> 00:33:51.472
somebody else's daughter,

00:33:51.573 --> 00:33:52.753
somebody else's sister.

00:33:52.794 --> 00:33:53.213
Right.

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It's going to be okay.

00:33:54.295 --> 00:33:55.175
God got us.

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And that is it.

00:33:56.538 --> 00:33:57.558
So God got us.

00:33:57.618 --> 00:33:59.401
And I keep that at the forefront of

00:33:59.421 --> 00:33:59.942
my head.

00:34:00.241 --> 00:34:01.303
That whatever we go through,

00:34:01.343 --> 00:34:02.605
God is going to cover us.

00:34:02.644 --> 00:34:03.846
And he has covered us.

00:34:04.227 --> 00:34:05.228
And we're still going.

00:34:05.248 --> 00:34:06.648
And Chantel is thriving.

00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:08.251
And she's in remission,

00:34:08.271 --> 00:34:09.652
thriving and enjoying life.

00:34:11.934 --> 00:34:15.599
amen amen that's a scripture look i can't

00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.400
remember one off the top of my head

00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:19.623
but i always know that god got us

00:34:20.003 --> 00:34:21.684
look i don't remember scripture i just

00:34:21.724 --> 00:34:23.387
know how the world hits you when you

00:34:23.427 --> 00:34:25.409
know how it works that's you that's yours

00:34:25.608 --> 00:34:26.469
amen yeah

00:34:28.635 --> 00:34:29.536
Before we wrap up,

00:34:29.576 --> 00:34:32.177
I want to remind our listeners that on

00:34:32.358 --> 00:34:33.538
October,

00:34:33.737 --> 00:34:37.101
at Alexander park is the survivor legacy,

00:34:37.141 --> 00:34:39.101
breast and lung cancer walk.

00:34:39.541 --> 00:34:43.344
You can learn more about the organization

00:34:44.025 --> 00:34:48.387
at survivorlegacyinc.com and learn more

00:34:48.427 --> 00:34:50.048
about how to sign up for the walk.

00:34:50.128 --> 00:34:52.650
And we will also have a link to

00:34:52.710 --> 00:34:56.213
register for the five K on our website

00:34:56.494 --> 00:34:56.733
and

00:34:57.315 --> 00:35:00.518
on um with where the podcast is posted

00:35:01.099 --> 00:35:02.659
uh kat you want to ask your last

00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.422
question i do our very last question is

00:35:05.501 --> 00:35:07.302
we want to stop all of the negative

00:35:07.342 --> 00:35:09.184
stigma with mental health and i know you

00:35:09.224 --> 00:35:11.766
ladies are champions and survivors share

00:35:11.786 --> 00:35:14.288
with our listeners your go-to mental

00:35:14.327 --> 00:35:22.014
health practice um mom i would say

00:35:23.626 --> 00:35:28.106
to be honest, it's not, I mean,

00:35:28.146 --> 00:35:29.648
it's easier said than done because of what

00:35:29.668 --> 00:35:30.188
I went through,

00:35:30.827 --> 00:35:33.007
but not let stuff bother you anymore.

00:35:33.168 --> 00:35:36.068
Like literally certain stuff, just,

00:35:37.188 --> 00:35:37.489
you know,

00:35:37.690 --> 00:35:40.489
and then another one I would say for

00:35:40.550 --> 00:35:42.670
people at work, if you pay for,

00:35:43.391 --> 00:35:46.012
to get a therapist, I have a therapist,

00:35:46.331 --> 00:35:46.532
so.

00:35:49.333 --> 00:35:50.893
um yeah and i will text her in

00:35:50.914 --> 00:35:52.034
the heartbeat and be like i need to

00:35:52.054 --> 00:35:55.295
talk to you right she'll just put me

00:35:55.335 --> 00:35:59.536
on the schedule i have a cancellation and

00:35:59.617 --> 00:36:01.838
she'll talk me off the ledge so amen

00:36:02.597 --> 00:36:02.938
thank you

00:36:06.103 --> 00:36:06.724
For me,

00:36:07.563 --> 00:36:09.164
never think you have to carry something

00:36:09.204 --> 00:36:09.605
alone.

00:36:09.764 --> 00:36:11.365
Always have that person that you can

00:36:11.405 --> 00:36:13.085
confide in, you can talk to,

00:36:13.485 --> 00:36:14.967
you can cry on their shoulder,

00:36:15.047 --> 00:36:16.907
and you can talk to them about anything.

00:36:17.367 --> 00:36:18.168
I mean, sometimes,

00:36:18.188 --> 00:36:19.688
like to Chantel's point,

00:36:19.728 --> 00:36:21.349
sometimes our therapist is not there.

00:36:21.369 --> 00:36:22.889
And we have some therapists that never

00:36:22.929 --> 00:36:23.610
turns off.

00:36:23.949 --> 00:36:24.389
We have three,

00:36:24.409 --> 00:36:25.809
six to five days of the year.

00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:27.190
Always seek help.

00:36:27.670 --> 00:36:29.570
Always find someone that you can talk to.

00:36:29.971 --> 00:36:31.891
And again, Survivor Legacy is there.

00:36:31.931 --> 00:36:33.373
You can always call us.

00:36:33.452 --> 00:36:34.492
Amen.

00:36:35.996 --> 00:36:39.257
Thank you so much.

00:36:39.318 --> 00:36:40.278
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00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:43.239
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00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.141
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